What is going on with the Tibet people?

Question by theann: What is going on with the Tibet people?
I really don’t get what all this with Tibet. What are they doing to there people or what is everyone talking about

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Answer by mishna83
It’s not what they are doing to their people, it’s what China is doing to the Tibetan people. They are technically a minority group belonging to China, but they are treated as second class citizens, limited rights, limited opportunities, limited access to education, etc. China claims this is not so, but I have lived in the Tibetan Autonomous Region and I have seen it first hand. The Chinese have an overly large military presence there and they use it whenever they feel the urge, meaning they tend to kill Tibetans every so often. They also have a resettlement plan where they force the Tibetan nomads to settle in places the Chinese government decides. They have another resettlement plan where they move Han Chinese into Tibetan territory and are forcing the Tibetans out.

If you want to know more, check out some Tibetan history books at your local library.

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8 COMMENTS

  1. I disagree with [[mishna83]] completely.

    [[They are treated as second class citizens]]

    They are treated with the highest respect except the Tibetan shows extreme nationalism and do what they did in 1956-1959 and join the forces of the CIA: https://www.historynet.com/cias-secret-war-in-tibet.htm

    Anyway who dares to show the same tactic…they are violating China’s stability and treason as well as espionage. They are jailed and sometimes torture to spill the beans who and who is involved

    [[limited rights]]

    Tibetan families are permitted to have up to three children, whereby the Hans are limited to one. Tibetan families in Tibet average 3.8 children, larger than Tibetan families in India. There are also many other types of affirmative actions on education and health care. There’s definitely room for further improvement, though the living standard of the average Tibetan has improved greatly over the last few decades. Their average lifespan has increased from 35 in 1950 to 68 in 2000 due to higher living standard and better access to medical services, and infant mortality has dropped from 43% to 0.661% during the same period.

    As a comparison, the lifespan of Lakota men in the US averages less than 44 years.

    ~Religious Freedom~

    Barry Sautman, a leading scholar on Tibet, argued that religious institutions are being regulated mostly to avoid them being used as vehicles of separatism. Sautman said that there is now 1 monk or nun for every 35 Tibetans, “the highest of any Buddhist country in the world, and much higher than the relation of ministers and priests to parishioners in any Christian country in the world, where the ratio is often 1 to 1,000.” And unlike in Christian countries, these clergies are paid by public money and heavily subsidized by tax revenue from China proper.

    [[limited opportunities]]

    Make that limited economic opportunities. That is true. This is the reason the riot that the CCCP is not helping them enough and they are absolutely helpless that Han is taking away their economic freedom.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/19/AR2008031903053.html

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/09/AR2008040900931.html

    [[limited access to education, etc.]]

    One popular accusation is that Tibetans are forced to study Chinese in schools. This is complete falsehood.

    There is a two-track school system in Tibet, with one track using standard Chinese and the other teaching in the Tibetan language. Students can choose which system to attend.

    https://www.blackandwhitecat.org/2008/04/01/separatism-and-tibet/

    [[The Chinese have an overly large military presence there and they use it whenever they feel the urge, meaning they tend to kill Tibetans every so often.]]

    Anyway who dares to show the same tactic…they are violating China’s stability and treason as well as espionage. They are jailed and sometimes torture to spill the beans who and who is involved.

    [[They also have a resettlement plan where they force the Tibetan nomads to settle in places the Chinese government decides.]]

    I don’t believe this is true because what will these nomads do in a city like Lhasa? They live in farms and their job is planting and make food for the Tibetans.

    [[They have another resettlement plan where they move Han Chinese into Tibetan territory and are forcing the Tibetans out.]]

    Moving out from where? The Da-Liar Lama doesn’t know what he’s talking about. There’s at 92% of Tibetans in the TAR region. Another petty excuse to leverage their claim of becoming independent.

    I STILL don’t agree with [[micha_b3]].

    The principal is full of information, and shows us a few of the Tibetan-language textbooks. The Five Provinces is the name of the series, which covers all of the major subjects, each one a translation of the standard Chinese text used throughout the whole of China. There is also a textbook in the series used to teach the Tibetan language, which draws on mostly Tibetan subject matter.

    ‘He says that these same textbooks are used in primary schools in all the five Tibetan areas – the Tibetan Autonomous Region, Gansu, Qinghai, Sichuan and here in Yunnan. But is it not easy for some Tibetan children to learn how to read and write in Tibetan.’

    ‘Why is that?’

    ‘He says that most Tibetan children speak only their local dialect at home, which is southern Kham dialect, but at school they have to learn written Tibetan, which is a little different, because it’s based on the Lhasa dialect. He says they differ phonologically.’

    ‘So these kids have to learn three languages really – the Lhasa dialect, Mandarin, and now English.’

    ‘Yes, that’s right. In the past, before liberation, most Tibetans could only speak their local dialect, and were unable to read and write. Usually only the wealthy religious leaders knew how to read and write. You foreigners shouldn’t believe everything that nasty man in Dharamsala says. He always tells many lies, saying that China is destroying Tibetan culture and language. Not true. Tibetan is now a computerised language, with Tibetan fonts, and so there are now many Tibetan-language newspapers and magazines and novels, and even literary journals in the Tibetan language, like Light Rain and Tibetan Literature and Art journal. There is even a Tibetan-language television station, which broadcasts in Tibetan language twenty-four hours a day. In fact, more Tibetans can read and write the Tibetan language now than at any time in their history.’

    https://www.blackandwhitecat.org/2008/04/01/separatism-and-tibet/

  2. In the China, Tibetans enjoy a high treatment ,Perhaps you will be surprised, but in China, Tibetans are allowed with the knife.Is not only Tibet, including all other ethnic minorities who have a high treatment, said a Chinese interesting things in it, because of the high-treatment of Tibetans, they can open Jeep in suburban to pick cow dung up. Of course, there are many Tibetan people live a life of slavery, which the Government and the serf system of corruption and long-term thinking on the formation of it.

  3. what’s going on is that little foot soldier of the West, Dalai Lama is going around telling lies about China.

    just how creditable is he?

    he preaches simply life, and yet he lives in 5 star hotel

    he says he wants peace, and yet he tells monks to use violance

    he says there is no religious freedom for tibetans, and yet he doesn’t allow other branches of tibetan buddists to practice religion

    he bashes Chinese government, and yet he wrote a poem to praise Chairman Mao

    yes you see western leaders make a big deal out of Tibet, that’s because they are politicians, they have to prove their point, make a statement to the people who are going to vote for them. The thing with politicians is that when they are not kissing your cheeks, they are kicking your behind.

    and they also know the fact that China is never going to give up Tiben, not even an inch.

    just google Dalai stop lying

  4. To the individual who disagreed completely with my response–

    My response is the result of having lived with Tibetans. Have you done the same? I have a lot of respect for China as an economic power, as a historically grand nation, and I found the Chinese people to be among the kindest I have met. However, that does not change my experience of Tibetans being treated with less respect than their Han counterparts. There is a distinct difference in their status within society.

    As for education, every school child in Lhasa learns in Mandarin. They may have one class which is Tibetan, but they all learn in Mandarin. That is not a choice. Additionally, as with most minority public education in China, there are almost no funds that actually reach the schools, particularly if they are in remote areas, meaning there are extremely limited supplies for the students. Also, there are nearly no textbooks written in minority languages.

    Perhaps you can explain how Tibetans can study in Tibetan when they have no texts actually in their own language.

    As for the nomads, small villages and towns are being artificially created and they are being required by the government to live within the limits. They are not being forced to stay in the cities, nor did I imply that.

    As for the resettlement of Han into Tibet, this has been going on for some time, not only in Tibet but also in other remote areas of China, often times with subsidies given to the Han people who go there.

    As for things like ability to practice religion, yes, often Tibetans are allowed to practice certain aspects of their religion openly. Tibetans who are government employees are not allowed that freedom, and can lose their positions if they are seen doing any devotional activities in public. Certain festivals have been completely banned, such as the butter carving festival and the Great Prayer Festival. For what purpose, no one really knows.

    While you are certainly entitled to disagree with what I say, you should know that I speak from real life experience living in Lhasa, and interacting with both the Chinese and the Tibetans who live there. I would ask that you do the same.

  5. There are too many versions you don’t know what is true anymore.

    micha_b3,

    When in Japan, the lessons are taught in Japanese. Anyone who has worked in Japan will know that the only language they use is Japanese. All minorities must speak Japanese.

    When in Indonesia, you only use bahasa Indonesia. The minorities, including ethnic han chinese, have to change their names to Indonesian names. But they did not complain and treat themselves as Indonesians, and they themselves work hard as Indonesians citizens.

    When in USA, the Public Schools conduct lessons in English. The minorities (blacks, native americans, asians) have to speak English. Most do not speak/don’t know their ancestors’ languages. At least the Tibetans still do.

    Resettlement issues. This is where the Han Chinese did poorly. If they have done well decades ago. Redistribution of resources, facilities will be more even. This issue will not happen as the tibetan will not think they are not treated well (if that is what they think).

    The way I see it. It is a domestic issue. Every country has its poor counsin, who always think the government has neglected them.

    We should clean up our own house first.

  6. Apparently it has been reported that the Tibetians want freedom from the Chinese Government. That’s not true. Many of the Tibetians actually do not want to be independent, and China has never really mistreated them or all that rubbish that the ones have made up.